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Tuesday, December 5, 2017

Photons With Kinetic Energy?

From the post "Threshold Frequency, Einsteins" dated 4 Dec 2017,

f3=c516πhdensityZ3.4354

prove to give to high a value for f 1025.  Maybe in the expression,

Einput/particle=8πc3f2hf=8πhc3f3

we are wrong to consider photon energy, E=hf as a wave only,

Einput/particle=12c2densityZ3.4354=8πhc3f3

Instead, if we consider each photon as a particle at light speed, and equate the total energy input to the system as the sum of kinetic energy and potential energy,

Einput/particle=KE+PE

12c2densityZ3.4354=12c28πc3f2+8πhc3f3

f3+c22hf2c516πhdensityZ3.4354=0

Since the solution to the cubic equation  ax3+bx2+cx+d=0  is

x=3(b327a3+bc6a2d2a)+(b327a3+bc6a2d2a)2+(c3ab29a2)3+3(b327a3+bc6a2d2a)(b327a3+bc6a2d2a)2+(c3ab29a2)3b3a

where x=f, a=1, b=c22h, c=0 and d=c516πhdensityZ3.4354

b327a3=c6216h3

d2a=c532πhdensityZ3.4354

b29a2=c436h2

b3a=c26h

So,

f=3(c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ)+(c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ)2+(c436h2)3+3(c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ)(c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ)2+(c436h2)3c26h

Or,

f=3A+A2B3+3AA2B3C

where,

A=c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ

B=c436h2

C=c26h

Consider,

(c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ)2+(c436h2)3=2c6216h3c5density3.435432πhZ+(c5density3.435432πhZ)2

=c5density3.435432πhZ(2c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ)

=c10density3.435432πh2Z(2c216h2+density3.435432πZ)

and,

A=c5h(c216h2+density3.435432πZ)

Since,

c216h2>>density3.435432πZ

f is complex and negative!  Maybe we should have use,

L=hfKE

that the photon is at light speed before and after collision and work is done only by the energy in excess of its kinetic energy.  E=hf being the total energy of the photon and is not considered its PE.  We have instead,

f3c22hf2c516πhdensityZ3.4354=0

f=3A+A2B3+3AA2B3C

where,

A=c6216h3+c5density3.435432πhZ

B=c436h2

C=c26h

and

A2B3=c10density3.435432πh2Z(2c216h2+density3.435432πZ)

Still,

c216h2>>density3.435432πZ

A2B3c10density3.435432πh2Z(2c216h2)

A>>A2B3

fc26h  which is way too big!

If we formulated f as,

Einput/particle=KE

where the photons are just particles with light speed c,

12c2densityZ3.4354=12c28πc3f2

f=c38πdensityZ3.4354

With iron, Z=26 and density 7.874gcm3

f=c38π7874263.4354=3.340e13Hz

Iron has a work function of 4.33eV, so

f=ΨheV=4.334.135667516e15=1.0470e15Hz

Missed by a mile.

In this attempt to derive threshold frequency, the "charge" ejected is a basic particle of one quarter the normal charge.

It is possible to argue that since it is an atom that is subjected to the bombardment of photons, that we should take the unit atom view instead of a unit particle view.  In which case, each atom has Z number of particles of each type that is subjected to collisions with photon,

Einput/atom=12c2densityZ3.4354

all Z particles interact as one with a photon, to result in an emission of a basic particle.  So,

Einput/atom=12c2densityZ3.4354=12c28πc3f2

f=c38πdensityZ3.4354

For the case of iron,

f=c38π7874263.4354=8.6833e14Hz

Iron has a work function of Ψ=4.33eV, so

f=ΨheV=4.54.135667516e15=1.0470e15Hz

and we are off by 1.21 times.

densityZ  or densityZ   ???

Good night...