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Wednesday, July 20, 2016

Second Guessing Again

I was wrong.  From the post "Pound To Rescue Permittivity" dated 30 May 2016,

qεo=4πa2ψm.2c2ln(cosh(π))

where we generalized to

qεo=4πa2ψm.2c2ln(cosh(G2mc2aψ))

but for the case of a basic particle, from the post "New Discrepancies And Hollow Earth" dated 23 Jun 2016,

ln(cosh(G2mc2aψc))=14

and a big particle,

ln(cosh(G2mc2aψπ))=1

The charge of a basic particle and a big particle differ by a factor of 14.

So, in the post "And They Danced" dated 18 Jul 2016,

14q24πεor2e=v.mev2re

the new factor 14 still cancels in the ratios of mass and orbital radii derived here,

rpre=mev3empv3p

But as we rearrange,

q24πεor2e=v.4mev2re

me4me

because we have assumed that the electric charge on a electron in orbit is the same as the electric charge of a free electron.  If the experimenter has also made the same assumption, this would introduce a factor of four to the quoted experiment value of the mass of electron.  The quoted mass of an electron is,

me=14me

where me is the value for electron mass used here.

The published result of the ratio of electron mass to proton mass is,

memp=11836.15267389

If we replace c with 2πc as the electron is in circular motion,  the expression

q24πεore=mec3

from the post "And They Danced" dated 18 Jul 2016, becomes

q24πεore=me(2πc)3

When we associated the extra factor with me,

q24πεore=(2π)3me.c3

me(2π)3me

The missing factor of 2π accounts for circular motion.  This factor cancels as we take the ratio, but if the experiment to obtain the mass of an electron is based on linear speed, the factor of 2π for circular motion will reduce mass by a factor of (2π)3 here.

me=(2π)3me

Since the proton as the nucleus is in spin, and we consider its rotational kinetic energy with the use of moment of inertia, I

I=12(25m)r2ω2=12(25m)v2

m25m

we introduced the factor 25 to the mass of the proton, mp.  The actual mass should be

mp=52mp

where mp is the value for proton mass used here.

And if we accept the results from the post "And They Danced" dated 18 Jul 2016,

mef3empf3p=r4pr4e

and,

memp=177

with the following adjustments,

me14me

due to the assumption that the particles have the same charge magnitude.  And

mp52mp

due to the use of mass instead of moment of inertia as the proton is in spin.

And also, for linear speed as opposite to circular motion,

me(2π)3me

we have,

memp14me(2π)352mp=177

memp=177(2π)32514

or

mpme=77(2π)32514=1909.98

and if we have,

memp=174

mpme=74(2π)32514=1835.57

and if,

memp=175

mpme=75(2π)32514=1860.37

and if,

memp=176

mpme=76(2π)32514=1885.18

Which seems to adjust for the experimental value of the ratio of proton to electron mass, but the introduction of moment of inertia adds complications to the original expression,

mef3empf3p=r4pr4eIef3eIpf3p=r4pr4e

where Ie and Ip are moment of inertia of the electron and proton respectively.

Lunch time!